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What’s All The Fuss About FN’s Five-seveN USG?

by David Fortier   |  January 3rd, 2011 47
FNH unleashed a firestorm of controversy when it introduced the 5.7x28mm cartridge and the Five-seveN USG pistol.

The antigun crowd has set out on yet another witch hunt as once again they’re angrily calling for the banning of a firearm. Using stock terms like “no sporting purpose,” “cop killer ammo,” and “deadly military-style automatic weapon,” they’ve climbed back up onto their soapboxes to enact a ban on one particular firearm. I wondered what firearm could be so evil that we had to run right out and send them all to the bottom of the ocean.

 

 

The current target is a .22-caliber centerfire pistol manufactured by the well-respected firm Fabrique Nationale d’Armes de Guerre-Herstal. Dubbed the Five-seveN, it chambers a small-caliber high-velocity cartridge called the 5.7x28mm. It’s actually this cartridge, rather than the pistol itself, that is at the heart of the controversy. Intrigued by what all the hoopla was about, I decided to take an in-depth look at FN, the proprietary 5.7x28mm cartridge, and the Five-seveN pistol that chambers it.

 

I figured the best place to start was at Fabrique Nationale, so I boarded a plane to Belgium. For those of you unfamiliar with this Belgian company, FN has long played a major role in the development and evolution of significant military small arms. It is the home of the P35 Hi-Power pistol, FAL rifle, MAG GPMG and Minimi light machinegun. It was here that John Moses Browning made his home. Standing in his office, I could not help but be moved while contemplating the work accomplished there. Looking at this company’s past, it’s interesting to note that its firearms have always stood against tyrants bent on conquest. Today is no different as American troops fight the good fight wielding M249 SAWs and M240 GPMGs built by FN.

 

Philippe Claessens, the managing director of FN-Herstal, took time from his busy schedule to meet with me when I arrived. During our conversation he shed some light on the recent past and where FN is headed today. With the end of the Cold War FN’s management resized and reshaped the company to make it more efficient. Today FN employs 1000 employees in Belgium. At the same time the company has invested 80 million Euros modernizing and rebuilding the facility in Herstal to streamline production. Understanding the importance of research and development (R&D) FN also began allotting five to six percent of its budget (it takes in approximately 450 million Euros a year) to R&D.

 

 

SPECS: FNH Five-seveN USG Semiautomatic Pistol
Distributor: FNH-USA Inc.
Model: USG
Operation: Delayed blowback autoloader
Caliber: 5.7x28mm
Barrel Length: 4.8 inches
Overall Length: 8.2 inches
Weight, empty 1.3 pounds
Safety: Ambidextrous, located above trigger
Sights: Fully adjustable rear, blade front
Stocks: Integral polymer frame
Magazine Capacity: 20 rounds
Finish: Matte black
Price: $1074

 

The 5.7x28mm Cartridge
One project stemming from FN’s R&D work is the Five-seveN pistol and its 5.7x28mm cartridge. Beginning in the late 1980s FN concluded that with the proliferation of body armor NATO’s 9x19mm firearms were rapidly becoming obsolete. In 1990 NATO recognized this threat and officially began looking into replacing 9x19mm arms with a new Personal Defense Weapon (PDW) system that would be capable of penetrating body armor and would be issued to personnel who did not need a regular rifle.

 

But what could replace the 9x19mm NATO? When it comes to penetrating armor there are several methods that work. The simplest is to merely drive a very small diameter projectile at high velocity. And this is what FN did. The result is a small bottleneck cartridge with a 28mm-long case topped with a .224-inch diameter projectile. The standard military/LE SS190 ball loading features a 31-grain FMJBT. The cartridge’s overall length is 40.5mm, and it weighs half what a 9x19mm cartridge does.

 

To cut through body armor the .224-inch-diameter SS190 projectile incorporates a cone-shaped steel penetrator sitting atop an aluminum core surrounded by a steel jacket. Velocity of the 5.7x28mm SS190 ball load from a P90 PDW’s 10.2-inch barrel is a respectable 2346 fps. Out of a Five-seveN pistol with 4.8-inch barrel it clocks 2133 fps. Despite the high muzzle velocity recoil is approximately 30 percent less than the 9x19mm. This 5.7x28mm load was specifically designed to defeat a NATO CRISAT target (consisting of a 1.6mm titanium plate with 20 Kevlar folds), and it will–even at 200 meters.

 

In addition to the SS190 ball loading (color coded with a black tip), FN also developed a number of specialty loads. These include the L191 Tracer, Sb193 Subsonic, and SS192 Training Round. For commercial sales FN developed the SS195 LF JHP and SS196 V-Max. The SS195 LF features a jacketed hollowpoint that lacks the steel core of the SS190. It drives a 28-grain JHP at a claimed velocity of 2312 fps from a P90 and 2100 fps from a Five-seveN. Not designed to expand, and without the body armor penetration of the SS190, this lead-free round is instead designed with a rapid y
aw cycle.

 

 

Originally developed for military use, the 5.7x28mm cartridge is now available to civilians in FN’s Five-seveN USG

The SS196 is topped with a 40-grain Hornady V-Max and has a muzzle velocity of 1800 fps from the P90 and 1600 fps from the Five-seveN. This load is designed to expand/fragment and also lacks the body armor penetration of the SS190 load. The SS190, L191, and Sb193 were developed for military and law enforcement use, so they have always been restricted and have never been available for sale to civilians. However, neither the SS195 LF nor the SS196 load was designed to penetrate body armor, and neither is classified as armor piercing by BATFE. Therefore, both loads are available, without restriction, to lawfully armed citizens.

 

The Five-seveN pistol
FN developed two systems to utilize the new 5.7x28mm cartridge: the P90 PDW and the Five-seveN service pistol. Both are modern designs manufactured from space-age corrosion-resistant materials. The P90 is a unique-looking compact submachinegun that feeds from a horizontally mounted 50-round magazine. The companion of the P90 is the Five-seveN. It is a full-size service pistol that operates via delayed blowback. I had a chance to shoot both the P90 and Five-seveN pistol on the company’s outdoor range, but I was looking to spend more time with the Five-seveN than was possible in a mere demonstration. So after returning to the U.S., I requested a Five-seveN pistol for review. It arrived a short time later, and I immediately got to work.

 

The model I received was FN’s Five-seveN USG. It came in a black plastic hard case with a cleaning kit, tools, lock, and two spare 20-round magazines. A full-size service pistol with a look all its own, the USG is built on a lightweight polymer frame. Quite out of the ordinary, though, is that the slide, which houses a 4.8-inch hard-chromed barrel, also has a polymer shell. Due to the amount of polymer utilized in its construction the USG, despite its size, is relatively light, just 1.3 pounds unloaded. My sample gun weighed 1.6 pounds loaded. Overall length is 8.2 inches, and it’s approximately 5.75 inches high.

 

 

(From left to right) 5.56, 5.7x28mm SS190, 9×19, .224 BOZ, 7.62x25mm Sabot, 7.62x25mm, 5.45x18mm Soviet, 5.7x28mm SS190, 5.7x28mm SS195 LF.

Upon first examining the USG one notes the controls are placed a bit differently than the norm. The USG’s magazine release (which can be reversed for left-handed use) is a conventionally located push button release. No change here. But the slide release is located just forward of where the safety is mounted on a 1911. This allows it to be easily depressed without having to stretch for it. Ambidextrous safety levers are mounted on both sides of the frame just above the trigger.

 

While this is an unusual place for a safety on a handgun, modern pistol handling doctrine calls for placing your trigger finger alongside the frame when not actually firing. This puts it right over the USG’s safety lever allowing it to be easily manipulated. To facilitate use with gloves the trigger guard is slightly oversized at the front. A takedown lever is located on the left-hand side of the pistol’s frame, allowing it to be easily stripped without tools. To show the state of the firearm, a loaded chamber indicator is mounted to the left rear of the ejection port.

 

The frame of the pistol is nicely contoured and textured to provide a comfortable yet secure grip. To make the design more flexible and user friendly, the dustcover features a MIL-STD 1913 rail, which allows lights and lasers to be easily mounted. Feed is from synthetic magazines that hold a whopping 20 rounds. A magazine disconnect is incorporated into the design, but the good news is that it does not degrade the quality of the trigger. Somewhat surprisingly, the trigger on the USG is quite good, being both light and crisp with a very short reset.

 

 

The pistol also comes with an integral accessories rail and 20-round magazine.

Sights consist of a large, easy-to-see blade front sight mated to a fully adjustable rear. They feature white dots to make them easier to pick up.

 

Shooting The New System
I spent some time getting to know FN’s USG at the range. With a 20-round magazine I expected the USG’s frame to be fat and bulky. Pawing it over I was pleasantly surprised to find it quite comfortable. Magazines inserted easily, the slide retracted smoothly, and the small bottleneck rounds fed readily into the chamber. The safety took a bit to get used to, simply because I was unaccustomed to its location, but I have no negative comments about it. The ammunition I had on hand for testing was a large quantity of FN’s 28-grain JHP load. I set to work making empty brass.

 

I began testing by checking the Five-seveN’s accuracy from the bench at 25 yards. I fired four five-shot groups off of sandbags, and the average group size came in at two inches. Velocity of 10 rounds averaged 1951 fps, which is a good bit lower than FN’s claim. Impressed by its 25-yard accuracy, I placed a target at 50 yards and repeated my testing. At this distance the Five-seveN averaged four-inch groups and is probably capable of doing better. Recoil is very mild. The muzzle simply flips slightly and then settles back into place. It’s a very pleasant pistol to shoot.

 

 

While the Five-seveN USG pistol’s push-button magazine release is conventionally located, its slide release, ambidextrous safeties, and takedown lever are positioned differently than the norm.

From the bench I moved to running drills from a holster. For gear I selected a holster and magazine carriers from Blade-Tech, Dept. ST, 2506 104th St. Court S., Suite A, Lakewood, WA 98499; 253-581-4347; www.blade-tech.com. I’ve always had good luck with Blade-Tech gear, and it did not let me down this time. Starting at the two-yard line and working my way back to the 15-yard line, I ran various drills, including shooting strong-handed, weak-handed, and with both hands–stationary and on the move with plenty of forced reloads and failure drills.

 

 

Shooting FNH’s Five-seveN
Load Muzzle Velocity (fps) 25-Yard Accuracy (inches) 50-Yard Accuracy (inches)
5.7x28mm SS195 LF 28-gr. JHP 1951 2.00 4.00
NOTES: Accuracy is the average of four five-shot groups fired from a sandbag benchrest at the ranges specified. Velocity is the average of 20 rounds measured 15 feet from the gun’s muzzle. The sample pistol had a 4.8-inch barrel.
Oak Penetration
Load Penetration Depth (inches)
5.7x28mm SS195 LF-gr. JHP 3.00
7.62x25mm Winchester 85-gr. FMJ 5.00
.45 ACP Black Hills 230-gr. JHP 2.50
.50 GI Guncrafter Industries 275-gr. JHP 3.00
NOTES: All rounds were fired into a block of solid oak at a range of 10 yards.
Water Penetration
Load Penetration Depth (inches) Bullet Expansion (inches)
5.7x28mm SS195 LF 28-gr. JHP 10.00 None
.32 ACP Winchester 60-gr. Silvertip 9.00 0.38
9x19mm 124-gr. FMJ 58.00 None
7.62x25mm Winchester 85-gr. FMJ 62.00+ N/A; bullet was not recovered
NOTES: Figures are the average for five rounds fired at a distance of 12 feet. The 7.62x25mm penetrated all 62 inches of the water trough, and the bullet was not recovered.

 

Shooting the Five-seveN is a whole lot of fun! Thanks to the excellent trigger, light recoil, mild muzzle flip, and bottomless magazine you can blister targets at a rapid rate. Lock into it and the slide simply pistons back and forth as empties fly out. When the magazine finally runs dry, punch the release and it’s kicked clear. Slap another one home, hit the slide release, and keep going. Practical accuracy is excellent, and man-sized targets are easy to hit, even at 100 yards.

 

Okay, the USG shoots, but what about the cartridge? I checked its penetration/expansion in water. Firing at a distance of 12 feet, penetration of five rounds averaged between nine and 11 inches. None of the rounds expanded or deformed in any manner, and other than the rifling marks, all looked like new when recovered. However, I did notice one interesting thing. It’s obvious that the rounds yaw quickly as two rounds penetrated approximately six inches and then turned 90 degrees and exited the side of the water container. Penetration of this load, in my opinion, is a bit on the shallow side for law enforcement. As a comparison, when fired into 10-percent ordnance gelatin this load penetrates only to about 8.5 inches.

 

 

Stepping out to 50 yards was no problem for the USG, and hits on a man-sized target were a snap even at 100 yards.

Then I fired three rounds into a block of solid oak; I also fired three rounds of commercial Winchester 7.62x25mm 85-grain FMJ from a Chinese Type 54 pistol. I then carefully split the block open and measured the depth of penetration. The 5.7x28mm averaged 3.00 inches while the 7.62x25mm (at 1435 fps) averaged 5.00 inches. Repeating this on an iron plate, the 5.7x28mm simply left silver smears, but the 7.62x25mm slightly dimpled the plate.

 

What do I think of FN’s Five-seveN USG? I like it! It’s accurate, reliable, and easy to shoot well. Plus, it’s an awful lot of fun to shoot, especially with that deep 20-round magazine capacity. My wife Emily put her Nikon up for a bit and took a turn behind it. She liked it, too. For me, a firearm simply being fun to shoot, whether it’s an M1886 Lebel or FN’s USG, is reason enough to own it.

 

Regarding terminal performance for personal protection, many vocal detractors in the U.S. doubt that this small cartridge and its ultralightweight 28- or 40-grain bullets provide adequate terminal performance. Highly respected experts, such as Dr. Gary K. Roberts, have stated current 5.7x28mm loads do not offer sufficient penetration or inflict a large enough permanent wound cavity based upon testing in ordnance gelatin. A 28-grain nonexpanding .224-inch-diameter bullet at 1950 fps is certainly no magnum. Despite this, FN stands firmly behind the 5.7x28mm and states it has worked well when employed by military/law enforcement personnel in actual shootings.

 

What about the antigun crowd’s claims of it being useful only for cop killers? “Nuts,” says I. The SS190 load has always been restricted and is shipped from a U.S. Customs controlled warehouse only to military and law enforcement agencies. None has ever been available commercially. The only ammunition available for commercial sale are the sporting-grade 28-grain JHP and the 40-grain V-Max loadings. Neither of these loads is classified as armor piercing by BATFE. In reality a run-of-the-mill .44 Magnum revolver with hunting loads will penetrate deeper in body armor than either of these 5.7x28mm loads.

 

 

Accuracy at 25 yards was very
good, with the average group coming in at 2.00 inches

Some European and domestic companies refuse to offer civilian versions of military firearms, high-capacity magazines, or folding stocks, but FN is not among them. If you’re interested in a Five-seveN USG pistol, they are available for $1074. Ammunition is growing in availability, and FN plans on introducing an SS197 load (40-grain V-Max at 2000 fps from the USG) in the near future. Hornady even has loading dies and appropriate projectiles sitting on the shelf if you’d prefer to handload. Plus, there will be a companion in the form of a semiautomatic version of the P90 PDW available by the time you read this.

 

The antigun crowd not wanting me to own one is enough reason to add a USG to my collection.

  • J Lindsay

    "And no FN USG has ever been used in the commission of a crime."

    Kind of an expensive firearm for the run of the mill crook. LOL.

    • Mike

      Actually this is the only gun that the Fort Hood psyco used which was a very big criminal act. It sadley proved to be extremly leathal. I am not trying to make the gun look bad as I own one and love it.

      • turbodan

        Incorrect. 13 people were killed and 29 others wounded. Not extremely lethal by any means, especially since some victims certainly sustained multiple hits.

        • Bob Harvey

          I do not agree with what the “Fort Hood psyco” did in any way, shape, or form but… Hitting 42 people who heard shooting and were attempting not to get shot sounds like a good statistic for accuracy to me. Especially if it was multiples. Higher caliber would more than likely have resulted in more serious wounds, but low recoil, high round count, and time of target acquisition certainly seemed to keep him engaged in the fight. A higher caliber pistol would result in less of a body count, and from a military standpoint more people on the ground bleeding and not fighting a is good thing…. once again I do not agree with what the “Fort Hood psyco” did in any way, shape, or form but its a good real world indecent to gather information from.

        • Ken

          What size cleaning tool do you use to clean the barrel? Thank you, Ken.

  • Ben Chappell

    “And no FN USG has ever been used in the commission of a crime.”

    The writer failed to realize that "Major Nidal Malik Hasan allegedly packed a FN Herstal Five-seveN tactical pistol, which according to federal law enforcement officials, was legally purchased from the "Guns Galore" shop in Killeen, Texas in Aug. 2009." This was the guy that caused 43 casualties and killed 13 people at Ft. Hood. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/cop-killer-gun-thou

    • John Bartlett

      Hmmmmm, I own a firearms store and carry the Five seveN personally. It is light, accurate and powerful. 20 + 1 in chamber. 2 extra mags (one with 20 and one with 30). Less than 4″ diameter at 100 yards without a scope. Not bad for a hand gun. In fact, it’s the most accurate hand gun at a distance I can think of. Not sure why there are so many haters. If you don’t like it, carry something else. I went from a Sig (P-229) to the FNH. And I love the Sig. Still do and always will…and I’m very happy and confident in what I currently carry (FNH). Just my 2 cents worth.

  • Gary

    Firearm for crooks? Not to make light of the situation, but a 1 out of 5 kill ratio by a trained soldier doesn't speak well for the fatality of this round. A .45 acp would have seen twice as deadly of an outcome.

    • D. Torchia

      I'm a little confused as to how you use the "1 out of 5" kill ratio in your response. Do you know in what part of the body the rounds that failed to kill hit their victims? Don't you think that may be important to know when making a claim such as "a .45 acp would have seen twice as deadly of an outcome". What do you base this on? Are you saying that if Hasan shot a victim in the arm with the 5.7mm and the victim lived then a .45 acp shot in the same location would have killed the victim? Hopefully you can see where your argument is seriously flawed here. Hasan was a Psychiatrist with virtually no serious handgun training. He bought the 5.7mm shortly before the shootings and there's no evidence to suggest he had any real training time in with the gun. So considering he was just walking around blasting unarmed victims with little or no training and that many of those victims were trying to run away or hide behind whatever limited cover/concealment they could find, I think that the number of 13 killed speaks for itself. The 5.7mm round is a very lethal round when fired into the vital area of any human being.

      • Michael

        Plus, if any cared to check the statistics, the "typical" 9mm / .40 / .45 used by most law enforcement and soldiers in handguns today average about 80% survival regardless of the training or experience of the shooter. So 1 : 5 ratio is spot-on for a handgun. Want a higher kill ratio – use a rifle or shotgun.

      • Security Forces

        I like how most people assume that military means they are trained "well" on weapons, most MOS (military occupation) don't require good shooting skills or go to the range that often being a Major he probably went to the range a couple times with an m-16 and maybe shot a coupe various weapons once in Basic, for the M9 which is what we use to make a qualify its 35 on paper and that's for the MP's

  • Adam

    i think "trained soldier" is relative. He was in the medical field. While agree a .45 is better, I do not feel it would have helped him.

    • Jay

      Wouldn't have helped the victims either!

  • TOK

    Looks like a Tokarev round is more effective =)

  • DocLobster

    Just because you're military doesn't mean you're well trained fighter. As a medical officer, it's doubtful Hassan had any legitimate combative skills. The several MOs I've worked with were similar in their lack of skill, save for the one who grew up in Russia in the 80's and knows how to handle the AK since it was part of his high school education.

  • Dario

    It can penetrate kevlar most of the time, seems lethal enough if the right round is being projected from the weapon itself. I would still prefer the P99 in a tight spot.

  • D. Torchia

    For those who still believe that handgun caliber trumps bullet placement and other variables that so often affect real life use of force situations, take a moment to read: http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/printable/node/786….
    Look at the data. Look how much difference there really is between the various handgun calibers. The Ft. Hood shooting clearly demonstrated that the 5.7mm round can be extremely lethal. Any handgun caliber has the potential to kill if employed effectively. What the study above tends to show is that rapid multiple hits in the vital areas, irregardless of caliber, are more more likely to stop/kill an individual than lesser hits by bigger caliber bullets. Then there's the accuracy and flat shooting trajectory of the 5.7mm round, meaning you can engage targets further away with a higher hit probability. It always makes me smile when I see people arguing 9mm vs .45 etc. The fact is, neither round has shown to be any more effective in real world shootings than the other. The Evan Marshall study that so many people touted for years as the bible of stopping power isn't a reliable predictor of how rounds actually perform in shootings. Too many variables were left out of the study. Anyone who thinks they would be lesser armed by carrying a FN Five-Seven pistol should take a good hard look at the Ft. Hood shootings and the various shootings the 5.7mm round has been involved with overseas.

    • http://twitter.com/oldfox @oldfox

      You misspoke: You meant to say "regardless" or "irregardless."

      The M16 5.56 was designed or deployed because inter alia, the projectile tumbled when it broke flesh and caused a bigger, shallower, LESS lethal would than prior technology. The Swedes complained it was somehow "inhumane" because of the big wound, but military prefer that to lethality because it takes three people (the hit soldier and two others to carry him off) out of the firefight instead of just the one.

      I have no idea but do you think that was the thinking behind this design? Plus the fact that one can carry so much more ammo for military use?

  • Steven M.

    What is the name of the laser/light combo for FN 5.7×28 that is in thephotos? Thanks

  • Dario

    The FN Five-Seven is used in forty plus countries as the primary sidearm for both law enforcement and military personnel. Though I may not agree with the bulkiness of the p90 compared to that of an MP-7, the 5.7x28mm round is by far more effective then either the 45. caliber or 9mm rounds. I personally believe that the FN Five-Seven is the most lethal sidearm as far as bullet penetration. If the first round isn't lethal then the other nineteen in the magazine will be.

  • JimB

    Sorry D. Torchia, but irregardless is not standard English and makes you look like a pompous fool. You should learn proper English before posting on a public forum.

    "What the study above tends to show is that rapid multiple hits in the vital areas, irregardless of caliber…"

    • Gary H.

      No, Jim B. Pointing out a non-standard, but socially acceptable, word like irregardless makes YOU look like a pompous fool. Get a life.

      • http://twitter.com/oldfox @oldfox

        "Non-standard" is the Oxford English Dictionary's gentle way of avoiding an insult to idiots who also use non-standard usage like "going to fix me some grub," "axe me a question," "I seen him before," "He knowed that," "yous guys," "Who be your daddy?" The word is a stunning mark or "tell" of uneducated people. I know a lawyer who actually heard a judge use it from the bench. In Miami. (Be fun to raise an objection if you liked rattling cages like me irrespective of the consequences.)

        • Gregor Beals

          Haha. Objection!

      • Danny

        You're an ass !!! Is my English correct?? 5.7 is a great Lethal side arm. O and BTW you do not sound like an English professor yourself we are all here for a discussion not to pick each other apart so why don't you go back to being abused by your wife, girlfriend, or whoever it it that treats you that way and makes you feel the need to do it to someone else rather than face them its easier to do it from the safety of your computer!!!

        • terry seale

          R U tawkin to me, Danny? If so, are you actually challenging me to a duel?

          –oldfox

    • D Anderson

      Check the most recent Websters. Because the word has been used so often, it is now considered legit.

      • http://twitter.com/oldfox @oldfox

        I wonder if English teachers and college professors (peer-reviewed journals) are accepting this usage or are making red marks. Does anyone here know? I don't think you can call it "legit" unless it is. Scholars don't think it acceptable. Bartenders and sports fans don't count.

      • Gregor Beals

        D Anderson, it’s a non standard. That doesn’t mean it’s a legitimate word. It means that so many people use it that they added it to the books, although this does make it a non-standard meaning NOT legitimate. It simply means it’s overused by people who don’t know what the hell they’re even trying to say but they most likely heard someone else say it so they think it’s a real word.

  • EasyEd

    Regardless of 'irregardless' , D. Torchia's input was a thoughtful comment.

  • EasyEd

    If they are that good, Israeli agents must have bought out the store; threaded barrel next??

    • Dario

      Somehow I can't picture israel purchasing belgium weapons but Mossad does well anyway.

  • Harrison

    thats ok i will most likely own it anyway, even though my 10mm is hard to beat in any test.

  • djdiym

    Well, I pick mine yo from cabelas first thing in the morning …. It's like Christmas I can't wait.!!!

  • M. B.

    This is a wonderful weapon and there are always going to be people who disagree with it. Why do you want the weapon and what are you going to use it for? I have one and it does what it is intended for. Low recoil with a light weapon allows you to engage targets further out with greater accuracy. This is not my nightstand weapon, though it could be. As a combat weapon, it is reliable and able to make small hole further away while giving you more ammo without an extended magazine. I still carry my 45 glock 36 and lcp, depending on what I wear for concealable reasons due to my slinder body type. If you go back to the information that was provided shotguns and rifles are still at the top of the chart which makes me feel better about my "nightstand" (ie home defense weapon) as 12 gauge with winchester critical defense slugs. That is also something that has not been mentioned in these posts: the type of ammo you choose for your weapon. To end this post: shot placement + good ammo = desired results.

  • J.8a

    Can a fn 5.7x28mm kill a wild hog? I do alot of hog hunting and was wondering if it would be a good back up gun, wile I always take my 10mm. ? Please respond.

    • TS2Fast50187

      Personally I wouldn’t rely on a 5.7x28mm as your back up when hog hunting, idk what your primary weapon of choice is when hunting hogs but I carry both my Sig P2340 (specs similar to the Sig P2022) and my FNX 40 because they have both proved their metal when in need. I carry a Sig556 to take on smaller hogs and a custom .458 SOCOM to handle larger animals. A the 556 is excellent medium to long range weapon, the 458 is like a hammer when hitting the largest hog and taking them down with a single shot. I have had the instance where going to retrieve the hog you walk into a pack of hogs medium to small if you take down a sow with her piglets. I have three dog team fitted with vests an body armor to protect from being gorged and I myself have heavy hunting clothes just in case. The thing about the .40 is it gives good stopping power and a balance between 9mm or .45 I have faced down many a hog with my sidearm and hasn’t failed me yet. I do own an FNH 5.7x28mm but use it as a daily carrier because it is light, high magazine capacity and very little recoil, penetration is excellent on a soft target such as a would be assailant but not a feral pigs thick hide and armor points (their skulls are thick and have such an angle on the forehead to cause smaller calibre bullets to deflect off them, much like a bears skull, they have a thick tough hide and bony armor protecting their vital organs. My suggestion is if your going to clear out hogs that are an issue you need to know what your dealing with before you go into the brush after them, when in doubt best to take them from a distance at night using a IR/night vision scope with a tac laser and a suppressed riffle. That way you have the chance to take out more than one at a time causing you to track the rest down. I work mainly in south Texas for ranchers and farmers to help unburden them of the destruction these animals cause and donate the meat to churches and food banks for the needy. There are tens of thousands of them running around and are a blight on crops and animals.

  • Bill

    Can't wait to try it…FN 57

  • Mia

    Just read through this. I never shot a FN 57. But I believe the 9×19 is a better choice. The 57 actually has worse armor piercing qualities than the 9×19 if both use steel core ammunition which is illegal. Also I believe the bigger hole the 9×19 creates with and without armor piercing round is and advantage also its much cheaper. The only thing thats better about the 57 is its higher magazine capacity in general and its lower recoil due to the smaller bullets.

    • Daniel Ortego

      “The only thing thats better about the 57 is its higher magazine capacity in general and its lower recoil ”
      That’s a pretty decent trade-off with all things considered. At my age I prefer less recoil and I do believe the round is sufficient given the capacity of the magazine, and controllability factor.

  • Cook

    It will interesting to see what others will have to say on this as it becomes more known through out the public.

  • MP_Ohio

    The FiveseveN is in a class by itself. I see people trying to group them in with the 22mag, 9mm and even some say it is a necked down 223. I have owned one for 2 years now and have put plenty down the pipe. The gun is designed as a perfect compliment to the PS90/P90. It only makes sense to have your pistol carry the same ammo as your battle rifle(if possible). What amazed me was the accuracy at longer distances. Go try to hit 2" to 4" groups at 50 yards or farther with a 45cal or even a 9mm. There is a definate learning curve with the FIveseveN at longer distances, but when you can drop a man at 100yds with a pistol I consider that a keeper.

    Many balistic tests have been done with it, both with balistic gel and armor. To see more please come on over to FNforum.net

  • ron bright

    WHAT IS A F N FIVE SEVEN FORTY NINE ?? i was trying to buy a holster for my F N Five Seven and found several that said "fits F N Five Seven Forty Nine"

  • Dario

    p90 pdw smg

  • Shawn Martin

    I had an opportunity to shoot a magazine through one of these at the local range and it was tremendous fun and very impressive. I wouldn’t mind owning one at all.

  • Frebitz

    Jeesh! Why don’t you windbags give it a rest and take a non shooter to the range?

  • Gerrigue

    Perhaps I missed it but for those who live in CT the max for a magazine is 10 rounds,unless you are grandfathered by an earlier purchase date of 2013. Does this Five-Seven USG offer a 10 round magazine?
    FYI, for those who are grandfathered in CT, you may Not load the magazine beyond 10 rounds unless you are at the range or at home. This is one of the many stupid gun laws following the Newtown incident.

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